When it comes to interrogation methods, does the end ever really justify the means? In this program, Bill Moyers interviews international law professor Philippe Sands, author of Torture Team: Rumsfeld’s Memo and the Betrayal of American Values, about his book on the approval of coercive interrogation by high-ranking U.S. officials. This edition of the Journal also reports on the fight the California Nurses Association has been waging for universal healthcare, their proposed answer to a medical system that covers some people better than others—and many not at all. Broadcast date: May 9, 2008. (57 minutes)